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Post by Rinkái on Nov 28, 2009 19:19:03 GMT -5
Petz was programmed for all ages though. It's actually a somewhat complex game. And here I thought you loved simplicity, lol! The ORIGINAL Petz 1, was actually aimed at adults, mostly. It says in the little box at the bottom of the screen (I think it's there, it may be on the CD case) that it's great for offices, or something. And it says that in desktop mode, petz can 'run across your work applications'. And... when it comes to the company name... erm, does anybody else know what P.F Magic stands for? It was made by bored 20+ guys who had nothing better to do. Apparently there's a load of random swearwords in the petz files, somewhere. (I've just been told this, though, it may not be true). Anyway, I love all the petz games and a few mini-games aren't going to change that for me. I think I agree with Bubblewrap, though. Most of the adults on these forums got petz at a much younger age, and have "grown up" with it, as she puts it. That means most adults who play, weren't actually adults when the game caught there attention. Most people if introduced to the game at an older age, would think it rather childish. I mean... come on. You get pixel petz, dress them up in stupid wizard outfits, and feed them. I don't think many 20+ people would be attracted to this, unless they'd grown up with it, and were already hooked. /my opinion, which is lengthy and quite boring, lulz.
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Post by Victorian Cyborg on Nov 28, 2009 22:56:29 GMT -5
Looking at my Catz II game case; "Catz Chase the Mice Around Your Desktop! Your Catz will prowl around your applications while you're working, peek out from behind open windows, and chase the mice around your folders! They'll keep you company while you work or play!" My ESRB rating is also K-A, which is Kids-Adults. Also, as for what P.F. Magic stands for as some people may not know... check here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PF_Magic#PF^ I love this so much, they hit the nail on the head with their company name.
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Post by loxfiredance on Nov 29, 2009 5:54:39 GMT -5
Petz was programmed for all ages though. It's actually a somewhat complex game. And here I thought you loved simplicity, lol! I mean the programming and concept behind it? Like teaching your petz tricks...most kids would just go 'oh look lets make our pet fat with the treats' but adults realise that you can train your pet to do pretty much anything if you train for hours. Also, petz personalities change allll the time. Open up your fave pet in ICY Hexplorer or another old hex editor and look at all the personality bytes...those bytes tell the program the petz likes, dislikes, moods, mates, etc. So quite a complex program. But on the outset, deliciously simples. AND LOL yes I know what PFM stands for. >.> there was a discussion on it looong ago.
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Post by Yvonne on Nov 29, 2009 7:53:13 GMT -5
I must admit from the breeders perspective on it, I prefer Petz 5. Because breeding in P5, never gets boring. I'm not fond of all aspects of P5 (mostly the play minigames to get more toys), but I love it's breeding-aspects.
If in P3/4 you breed calico looking mix X calico looking mix, in 99% of all cases you get calico looking mix offspring. In P5, there is a change you get a random siamese, russian or whatever else is in the last 8generations. That part I love.
Also if you breed carefully, with a thinking mind, you can get anything you want done in P5, where in P3/4 it can be impossible, because this tail comes with those legs only, for example.
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Post by loxfiredance on Nov 29, 2009 8:15:46 GMT -5
^ But what about backwards compatibility?
A bred pet to me is the epitome of a real, playable pet - they have lineage, like a real dog, and often have split personalities to boot. This makes them more than a pretty picture (like a hexie) because they're so much more interactable, you know? I have a daschie mix that acts like a poodle half the time and a daschie the other. That's a NATURAL occurence and I love it. Sure we can hex those traits in now, with relo's work, but for me, that's just hexing...natural is an anomaly, and that makes it special.
Convert a bred pet, and you lose allll of that. I see some friggin' amazing looking petz on PA, and yet they're for P5 so I don't bid. It's such a waste in my opinion, because what's the point of keeping all of your bred petz in P5 (which hardly any of my friends really use?) I want to be able to swap that lineage and natural awesomeness with pals, and it all goes down the toilet when someone's got a game version that won't align with mine :/
Just how I see it. Some people are like "but that's silly! just breed petz in p5 and keep them there!" um, no thanks. I breed for other people, not myself, so I want a wide target audience :]
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Post by Yvonne on Nov 29, 2009 8:41:03 GMT -5
Well Lox, that's probably the diffrence between you and me. I nowadays play Petz for me, I stopped doing that for a few years and I've honestly never felt more miserable. Sure I love if people can adopt from my site and whatnot, but that's not why I play Petz. I don't play Petz for Tiffany, Franky, Samson, Charles, Claudette, and Samantha. I play Petz for me, I play it because I honestly like it. Because it's my little fun-thing, my dirty little secret so to speak.And I honestly believe that if I ever stop playing Petz for me again, I should delete everything I have and walk away for good.
Also, for people that now have P5, it's sometimes hard, if not impossible to get legal copies of the lower number games.
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Post by loxfiredance on Nov 29, 2009 8:52:36 GMT -5
^ I bought my copies from Play.com, so it isn't impossible at all =3 Also, I play petz for myself first too, but I also like to share. The community is one of the reasons I stay interested
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Post by Yvonne on Nov 29, 2009 9:04:37 GMT -5
I guess the level op impossibility depends on the country, over here I had to go trough crazy loops to get most of my Petz games, so yeah. *coughs*
I do like the community, but even if the forums died out and I'd only have my petzy friends via aim/msn etc I'd still play. I would just delete more files then. haha.
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Post by Rinkái on Nov 29, 2009 11:30:30 GMT -5
And here I thought you loved simplicity, lol! I mean the programming and concept behind it? Like teaching your petz tricks...most kids would just go 'oh look lets make our pet fat with the treats' but adults realise that you can train your pet to do pretty much anything if you train for hours. Also, petz personalities change allll the time. Open up your fave pet in ICY Hexplorer or another old hex editor and look at all the personality bytes...those bytes tell the program the petz likes, dislikes, moods, mates, etc. So quite a complex program. But on the outset, deliciously simples. AND LOL yes I know what PFM stands for. >.> there was a discussion on it looong ago. I don't think that's very complex at all... I got the games when I was seven, dogz 4 being handed down from the girl up the road, who thought she'd outgrown it. I'm older now than she was then, but she'd been given it at age 12... So she hadn't grown up with it. Anyway, my point is: I figured out the training instantly. I started breeding my petz in a 'project', to get a certain kind of pet (I think I was aiming for a white russian with a poofy tail, but I can't remember if I got it) & training each pet to do tricks. My stepsister, on the other hand, adopted a mutt and proceeded to make it as fat and as hideously spoiled as she could. A few of my petz ran away because she sprayed them whenever they came out while she was playing with her mutt.. And eventually I stopped her playing the games. Lol, that's why I only have like, 3 mutts in my entire games (p3, p4 & p5). I dislike them. :c So yeah... depends on the kid. For me, it wasn't complex at all. For her (the girl that didn't learn to read until she was 13 and doesn't think education is important) it was difficult.
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Post by Victorian Cyborg on Nov 29, 2009 12:06:46 GMT -5
My stepsister, on the other hand, adopted a mutt and proceeded to make it as fat and as hideously spoiled as she could. A few of my petz ran away because she sprayed them whenever they came out while she was playing with her mutt.. And eventually I stopped her playing the games. Lol, that's why I only have like, 3 mutts in my entire games (p3, p4 & p5). I dislike them. :c Ugggghhh, my friend would do that to me. She had a copy of the game before I did and would let me make a kitty whenever I went to her house... then when I left she'd abuse the hell out of it and let it run away >: I got smart, started putting my kitty on a floppy disc and taking him home with me then I finally got my own copy of the game so we had no more issues.
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Post by loxfiredance on Nov 29, 2009 14:26:55 GMT -5
Imo it's maybe not as complex as originally thought. But it's not a KIDS game. well. originally. p5 is. p1-4 was meant for everyone. which is my point.
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Post by Rinkái on Nov 29, 2009 14:33:50 GMT -5
If it's made for everybody, doesn't that mean it's a kid's game too? It means there's got to be things that will appeal to children AND adults... so yeah, it's a kid's game. (:
& what do you mean? One moment you say it's complex, the next you say it's not that complex. :S
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Post by Yvonne on Nov 29, 2009 14:34:14 GMT -5
I think P5 is great for adults aswell, although it has some kiddy aspects. And the sibblings with the waterbottle and watercan sounds so familiar... I deleted mine. Fixed the issue. *ebil face*
Personally I'm an adult but I can't play an adult game to save my life. All I play are kiddy games.
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Post by loxfiredance on Nov 30, 2009 5:46:17 GMT -5
I'm agreeing with you Devil.. maybe the programming is complex but not as much as I first thought after reading what everyone else put.
The Sims is rated for everyone. That's not a KIDS game specifically. Petz 1-4 is also in the same category. P5 however, is specifically targetted AT kids.
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Post by xLoosends` on Nov 30, 2009 10:36:12 GMT -5
Convert a bred pet, and you lose allll of that. I see some friggin' amazing looking petz on PA, and yet they're for P5 so I don't bid. It's such a waste in my opinion, because what's the point of keeping all of your bred petz in P5 (which hardly any of my friends really use?) I want to be able to swap that lineage and natural awesomeness with pals, and it all goes down the toilet when someone's got a game version that won't align with mine :/ Loxie points out something that's often overlooked about Petz 5. On Petz Auctions, in the two years I've been on it, I have never seen a single bred P5 pet sell for more than 10PC. Yet I've seen bred P4 pet files, that looked just the same as the P5 files, go up to 300PC, sometimes even 500PC. I've even seen hexed petz suffer from this. I will spend 200PC on a amazing P4 cat, but if it's a P5 cat I won't go higher then 5PC. I remember getting a hexed dali for only 30PC that would have easily gone for 100PC had it not been for the fact she was a P5 file (which I later converted into a P4 file LOL). The P5 market on PA is HORRIBLE, it was one the first things I noticed when I came back after a seven year absence. What bothers me the most is when people who use P5 whine about how they're poor when it's pretty obivious what game makes you the moolah. Now I'm not that active on RKC, but on PCG you have some of the most AMAZING HEXERS ever to rule the Petz Community ;D Some are picky about who gets what and some are really frickken generous and will share with anybody. A lot will trade with you for bred petz, and I worship those that do. This is where what game version you play in can really ruin the fun for you though. I can't think of a single soul who accepts P5 bred petz as trades. I think half the petz I've gotten from Lox have been from bred trades and I wouldn't have a single one if I used P5. So yes, you can play in P5 "for yourself" all you want. But if you can't enjoy what all the community has to offer you then I really can't see any logic in using a version of the game that automatically ruins it wether you like it or not :/
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