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Post by charkati350 on Jun 4, 2013 15:31:07 GMT -5
Are there any tricks I can do to make my dog face the right side and do a dane pose. I've tried holding treats above her head and objects but nothing will work
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Post by Dandelion&Burdock on Jun 4, 2013 16:28:00 GMT -5
A lot of posing is a case of trial and error. I generally (although I rarely pose dogs, so a lot of my knowledge is getting cats in the right position) just pick up the dog and wait until they have turned around to the right. Sometimes dogs will get annoyed and squirm if you do this, but if you place them like that then you can take quite a few photos before they move. The thing is you'll need to take a LOT of photos before you'll see them actually pose. Standing and posing are entirely different things. Treat and pet your dog when they do pose. And watch out that they aren't overposing. The differences of standing, overposing and posing are outlined in the "Don'ts of dog posing" thread that is stickied on this board.
Like I said, it's trial and error, figuring out when they've turned enough is not easy at first and getting the pose you want is way harder.
Another good exercise is to go and find photos of dogs similar to your one in good poses (so perhaps sift through the pose help and judged shows threads) and then use it as a reference.
I cannot emphasize enough that getting a great pose isn't easy, that's why we have so many shows! It wouldn't be much fun if you could get a perfect one immediately.
Good luck! Create threads when you have a few poses that you want criticism on~
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Post by charkati350 on Jun 4, 2013 17:22:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips. By the way, I was looking at a few of the dog shows on the forum and I was wondering where you got your black amethyst wolf. Shes beautiful.
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Post by Dandelion&Burdock on Jun 4, 2013 17:34:37 GMT -5
I got her a long time ago and she was a non-freebie hexed file. So she's pretty unique and I can't recall who was making them.
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Post by Barguestspirit on Jun 4, 2013 18:44:05 GMT -5
Actually, I suggest not using treats when posing your dogz. Treats tend to be more of a distraction than a help. The exact method for posing differs slightly depending on whether you are are using P4 or P5. Here's some basic information on dog posing: Bring out one dog at a time, into a basic empty playscene that contains no toys or other petz. (You can quickly and easily make your own playscene that is great for this purpose using the in-game playscene editor. Just select a wallpaper and tile it, set the horizon to the very top, don't set any ledges/holes/gazing/rolling/growing/sounds/mouseholes, set bounciness low, and choose whatever footprint type you prefer. This will give you a playscene perfect for posing and training.) Pick up your dog and watch it rotate, dropping it when it appears to be lined up. (This will take a lot of tries, especially at first.) Start taking pictures once you've dropped the dog. If the dog jumps out of position, pick it up, realign it, and try again. If it gets startled and hides it's face, stop snapping pics for a second until it looks up again, then continue. Just keep taking pictures, and eventually, the dog will start to pose. How long this takes depends on the dog, and how much pose training it's had. Some dogs are naturally easier to pose and pick up on it quickly, some are a real pain in the butt and seem to take forever. So it takes patience. If you're posing a dog in P5: Stop taking pictures once the dog starts to pose, as continuing can startle it out of it's pose. Watch the dog carefully with your finger poised to snap a picture as soon as it poses the way you want. If you're using P3/4: You can continue taking pictures throughout the dog's pose. Most dogs usually start out doing a dali pose, then may sometimes go into a profile pose. So if you're trying to get a profile pose, watch and wait to see if the dog turns it's head. Also, dogs will typically only hold a pose for a short time at first, but will pose longer with practice. Each time your dog poses, particularly at first, give it a quick petting as soon as it comes out of the pose. You want to give it positive reinforcement without distracting it, so hold off on treats, toys, or long petting sessions until you're done with the posing session. Generally, keep posing sessions short at first, around 15 minutes is a good length. Too short a session and the dog will not learn as well, too long and the dog will get tired/bored. Over time, you can increase the amount of time spent posing a dog. At the end of the pose session, give your dog some extra attention, bring out it's favorite toy, give it a couple treats, and give it a good petting. Whether or not you've been able to get a good pose yet, put the dog away and either bring out a new dog to pose, or take a break. After a while, you can bring out the dog and try posing again if you need a better pose. Generally, you want to get lots of pictures from each dog so you can pick through them and choose the best poses. Also know that some breeds tend to be easier to pose than others. Some breeds have their own quirks, and so take getting used to. So whatever dog or breed you want to show, it's a good idea to learn a bit about how they pose, any quirks they have, etc. Learning to recognize a winning pose takes a lot of practice at first. There are a lot of things that go into it, head and leg alignment, the position of the tail/eyelids/ears, the dog's "breathing" point, etc. It's not hard to get a picture of your dog posing, but the devil is in the details. Depending on the competition, placing in a show at all can be difficult, even if the pose you've entered doesn't have any glaring mistakes. So don't get frustrated. This board is a good place to post the poses you get so people can help you, tell you exactly what can be improved, etc. The best suggestion I have: practice, practice, practice! Keep trying to get that awesome pose, even if it takes a long time. It often takes me days of trying to get a decent show pose from some of my dogs. But like most things, the more you do it, the easier it will get. Keep trying, and good luck! I hope that helps.
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Post by charkati350 on Jun 4, 2013 19:07:51 GMT -5
Barguest that must have taken awhile to write. thanks xD The dog im having troubles posing is a german shepherd/golden/sheepdog/scottie mix.
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