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Post by thenickdude on Nov 15, 2005 12:51:51 GMT -5
Although the word "Hexing"/"Hexie" might have originally meant "To edit with a hex editor", it's now used as a more general term "To edit".
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Post by Minibyte on Nov 15, 2005 23:24:17 GMT -5
Not that the old way is bad - it's fine. They new way is fine. I'm not trying to argue. It's just hard to see what you mean, that's all Coming from somone who hasn't been, er, hexing very long. I'm not trying to argue either. I am just trying to explain what I mean. There is nothing wrong with the new programs. Hex Editors are better for some things and the new programs are better for some things. I tried to make that clear in my last post. I am just trying to clarify what "hexing / hex editing" IS so that people use the correct terms when communicating. Nick says that hexing and hexie have become general terms. I disagree... they are general terms in the Petz community. In other game communities people using the new programs and claiming they were hexers would either be flamed or laughed at for being stupid noobs. If you want to call yourself a hexer in the PC, go ahead. Just don't be shocked if you ask for codes in some other game comunity and people laugh at you when you ask how to use them in Resource Hacker......
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Post by thenickdude on Nov 16, 2005 1:44:03 GMT -5
By "general term", I didn't mean "A term used by most people", I meant "a term with a broader scope".
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Post by Kovitlac on Nov 16, 2005 7:11:26 GMT -5
But we don't have that many PC programmers in the Petz community, ecspecially not here. I wouldn't go to other forums and say I'm a hexer, anyway. If someone says they're a 'hexer' on this forum, or any other petz forum, I'd think they're someone who uses a program that allows them to open up and alter the file of their pet.
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Post by Minibyte on Nov 16, 2005 9:42:48 GMT -5
LOL! Kovitlac, you and I have problems with words. LOL! If you stay in the Petz Community most people today ARE using the new programs. However, Hex Editors are also programs that allow people to open up and alter the file of a pet. Also remember that hexing is not what I would consider programming. Programming, to me, is a much higher and more complicated ability. It takes a heck of a lot more study than learning how to edit hex code. Programmers use a variety of programming languages to develop a program and then to compile it. I looked at some books about programming and decided I didn't have the time to learn something that complex. Maybe Nick can give a good definition of programming and how it differs or doesn't differ from hex editing.
BTW, I still have and use your playscenes. Have you created anything lately (scenes, breeds, etc) that you can share with us?
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Post by thenickdude on Nov 16, 2005 17:22:56 GMT -5
Programming is giving a computer an exact series of steps to follow to get a job done. Hexing is following these instructions using nothing but your brain
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Post by Kovitlac on Nov 18, 2005 18:31:29 GMT -5
lol, let's just stop there...at least I am. Not that I disagree - I'm just no computer wiz. That's my dad My playscenes? Nothing lately... They never turn out that great, so I kinda stopped. I love the ones that actually look similar to the ones in the game. I just don't know how they do it!
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Post by Raavyn on Nov 19, 2005 2:29:16 GMT -5
Sorry to continue posting in an old topic, but I've just found this thread and I have a lot of opinions on it!
From a general point of view, I would say that using actual hexing programs (Or even programs that just work with raw numbers, like ResHacker) would always be better to use. Obviously, for the reasons that other people have stated; that you would obtain a greater sense of satisfaction, and you feel like you've achieved something. But also, you're learning some actual hexing/hacking skills. Personally, I always think it's better to dedicate yourself to a discipline, rather than bypassing it -- like, what if someone was to say; "Why learn French? I can use a translator!"
Maybe simpler hexing programs might churn out Petz more quickly -- but at what cost? Obtaining skills like being able to manipulate numbers in programs such as ResHacker may come in handy later in life. I have more respect for anyone who would dedicate themself on learning how to use an actual hacking program, such as Hex Workshop, etc, rather than just clicking the mouse a few times.
I find it rather sad that now hexing might not require any dedication or skill.
Anyway, by now I've forgotten what I was saying. So I hope that was coherent. X.X
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