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Post by CatCreature on Apr 8, 2022 22:51:42 GMT -5
I thought your reply was very prompt! Does Eisso have high dogginess? Those are really interesting results - I haven't come across a pet with water as a favorite flavor yet! (And yes, 44 11 is how you would input the value ^_^ ) Woulda been much more prompt if I got the proper alert, but thank you, haha! Actually, not in the least! Assuming the numbers on the left are the ones to go by, right? Because his is at zero!!
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Post by lobb on Apr 8, 2022 23:10:42 GMT -5
I couldn't sleep so I thought I'd chime in! I just discovered I have a pet whose favourite flavours are: fish, cheese, fuzzy and... water. Here's a personality if you want to compare! She's got an Alley personality though for some reason the personality program says Persian.
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Post by ECRose on Apr 8, 2022 23:25:05 GMT -5
Oh, interesting! Now this one does have 100 dogginess - might be coincidental though. Maybe water isn't a weighted flavor preference, just an uncommon one?
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Post by shaina @ kizmet on Apr 9, 2022 2:34:48 GMT -5
So the first thing I did the other day when Reflet figured this out was to check Cuddles's preferences: his favorite color is yellow, and his favorite flavor is bones. ^^ The yellow makes a lot of sense, since he's loved the yellow frisbee since Petz II days: The bone flavor is a little weird since there's no default edible bone-flavored food (and I've never really noticed him going out of his way to chew bones, haha, despite the game saying Bulldogs enjoy them - he definitely chews on them, but he's not crazy about them like he is with that frisbee, lol), so I gave him Amanda's Halloween bone bowl: He looks mad because it kept moving on him, but I think he liked the flavor - he kept knocking it out of the carrying case to eat it. xD
I'll also have to introduce him to all those yellow toys you made Bunni - he's enjoyed playing with the yellow sneaker so far, and ate all the food out of the yellow bowl: It's really nice to confirm yellow as his favorite color after all these years. =D Finally, sharing some observations from some of my purebred (mostly 1st gen) petz (thinking I'll wait to do more until Thor releases her program that spits out all this info, hehe): CATZ Alley Catz - both like flavor 2 (fish) B+W Shorthair - both like flavors 10 (soft/fuzzy) and 14 (water), but one also likes fish and the other likes flavor 7 (cheese) Calico - all mostly like fish; one of them likes flavor 4 (milk) Chinchilla Persian - both like fish and soft/fuzzy Egyptian Mau - likes flavor 3 (leftovers) Honey Bear - likes milk Maine Coon - both like fish Orange Shorthair - they all like milk and flavor 6 (catnip), a few have some additional preferences (either fish or leftovers) Persian - both like catnip; one also likes beef and the other one likes leftovers Russian Blue - one likes chicken and the other likes leftovers Siamese - one likes fish and the other likes leftovers Tabby - either fish or chicken DOGZ Bulldog - likes flavor 11 (bones) Chihuahua - likes cheese and bones Dalmatian - a variety of preferences with these: one likes flavor 1 (beef), another likes bones, and another likes cheese Great Dane - either beef or bones Mutt - likes bones OTHER Pig - 8 (smooth/colorful), 9 (balls/squeaky toys), bones, 12 (wood/cardboard), 27 (plants) There's definitely differences with species (for example, I haven't seen any dogz who like fish or catnip flavors yet, or catz who like bones) and breeds (Orange Shorthairs liking milk and catnip, B+W Shorthairs liking soft/fuzzy flavor and water).
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Post by gyiyg on Apr 9, 2022 7:34:17 GMT -5
it's interesting that the b+w shorthairs also like the soft/fuzzy flavor... i wonder if the mice have adjectives set for them somewhere? it'd make sense for them to be "fuzzy", and b+w shorthairs favoring that flavor might be meant to make them more interested in them, since they're the "mouse hunter" breed, haha.
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Post by Bunni on Apr 9, 2022 8:32:38 GMT -5
Oooh based on some info that ECRose , junkyarddogg , and lobb have shared, it does look like flavor/color preferences are most likely passed on to their children! This does make sense to me, because the way these adjective preferences are structured in the .pet file, is the exact same way the genes (coat color, eye color, body parts, etc.) are as well. So it does appear to be a similar system coding-wise! gyiyg - That's such an interesting hypothesis about the mice! I wonder if we could look into that somehow. I just had a thought - you don't think it's possible that these adjectives actually 'define' the pet as well, do you? Like, what if they're not just the pet's preferences, but also adjectives to describe the pet as well? Let's say a pet's favorite color is red, and another pet's favorite color is red... they would then like each other because they both prefer each other? I mean, I'm sure it's an equation with a lot of weighted variables that go into it... but, is there any way to prove or refute this hypothesis? Like what if we changed the pet's adjective here to being 'edible' ... LOL ... another pet wouldn't then eat them ... right? shaina @ kizmet - Your story about Cuddles is so cute! I'm happy you are able to discover his favorite color and flavor now. Wow, amanda's bone bowl looks amazing!! I don't think I've seen that one before! I'm glad Cuddles is enjoying the yellow toy bundle I made ^^ Thank you for sharing!! Ooh it's nice to see you map out some of the breeds like that. How interesting! I decided to look into ten Gen 1 dalis last night, and from the data it does appear that beef is a very common favorite flavor of this breed: Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and research! I think it's really great that we are all compiling the data here in one thread so all the info is together. It's so fun!! Can't wait to see/hear more ^^
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Post by commander on Apr 9, 2022 9:59:55 GMT -5
This is amazing! I'll definitely try this with some of my favorite Petz this weekend and hope it doesn't hurt my brain too much... I'm an English major, I'm not so great with numbers lol. But the instructions seem straightforward enough for me to try!
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Post by Thor on Apr 9, 2022 10:52:57 GMT -5
(thinking I'll wait to do more until Thor releases her program that spits out all this info, hehe) (haha omg pressure haha) I'm done coding it and it works :D ((but releasing code scares me haha)) I did a group of mutts, alleys, pigz and bunnies ! Edit: since ya'll were asking about bws, I have a ton of PB from PKC days so I dusted them off and ran them thru the file and found: Edit2: I fixed the colors: Bowie likes orange? 🥺
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Post by CatCreature on Apr 9, 2022 13:28:32 GMT -5
(thinking I'll wait to do more until Thor releases her program that spits out all this info, hehe) (haha omg pressure haha) I'm done coding it and it works Ooooh....I want this. o.o That would be incredible! it's interesting that the b+w shorthairs also like the soft/fuzzy flavor... i wonder if the mice have adjectives set for them somewhere? it'd make sense for them to be "fuzzy", and b+w shorthairs favoring that flavor might be meant to make them more interested in them, since they're the "mouse hunter" breed, haha. I was actually thinking the same thing! As soon as I saw that B+W Shorthairs seemed to prefer the fuzzy flavor, I wondered if that might have been linked to the mouse! It makes sense, so I wouldn't be surprised if the mice somehow had that flavor! (...It's somehow disturbing to talk about mouse flavor. LOL)
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Post by Thor on Apr 9, 2022 20:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by shaina @ kizmet on Apr 9, 2022 20:30:26 GMT -5
So while testing for Thor, I found this info:
For favorite colors, blue, green, red, and yellow are extremely common; black, brown, clear, orange, and white are pretty rare... pink is extremely rare unless the pet is a Poodle (only 4 non-Poodle petz out of 1000+ liked pink, ALL Poodles like pink); no petz had purple or gray as their favorite colors.
For favorite flavors: dogz seem to prefer 1(beef), 7(cheese), and 11(bones). Some have preferences for 0(chicken), 2(fish), 3(leftovers), and 4(milk), but those are pretty rare (except for Poodles - all of them like chicken flavor). Catz prefer 0(chicken), 2(fish), 3(leftovers), 4(milk), and 7(cheese). Some catz like 1(beef), but it's not common (and the preference does not seem tied to Dogginess). 11(bones) seems to be extremely rare in catz (gyiyg has a Calico hex who likes bones, and I've since found some of my own catz who like the bone flavor as well). 6(catnip) so far seems limited to catz only.
There are breed differences which suggests that these preferences might be found in the breed files: - Alley Cats all like fish.
- B+W Shorthairs all like 10(soft)* and 14(water), plus an additional flavor (either beef, cheese, chicken, fish, milk, or leftovers).
- Chinchilla Persians always like soft* plus one additional flavor (beef, cheese, chicken, fish, milk, or leftovers).
- Orange Shorthairs always like milk and catnip, sometimes with an additional flavor (chicken, fish, cheese, beef, or leftovers [thank you silverfish for confirming the last two <3]).
- Persians always like catnip with one additional flavor (beef, cheese, chicken, fish, milk, or leftovers).
*I agree with gyiyg that flavor 10(soft) is probably mouse flavor haha.
- Bulldogs always like bones, sometimes with an additional flavor (beef or cheese, possibly others).
- Chihuahuas always like bones, sometimes with an additional flavor (beef or fish, possibly others).
- Poodles only like chicken.
- Petz 5 breeds like the same flavors as their base breed.
- Bunnies seem to like cat-preferred flavors. I have one who likes chicken, lol.
- The 4 pigs I tested liked shiny, chewy, bones, and wood with either beef or cheese preferences.
- I didn't have any petz who preferred the sweet flavor.
I also uploaded the data to Google Sheets if anyone wants to take a look here.
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Post by CatCreature on Apr 9, 2022 21:26:04 GMT -5
no petz had purple or gray as their favorite colors. I told my sister everything you said in this post, and at this point, she replied, "Well of course no one likes purple, it's so hard to find most petz probably don't KNOW purple LOL!" LOL I AGREE!! But that's so interesting!! I gotta learn how to hex these favorites into Petz...I have so many character hexies that would be awesome to customize!!
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Post by silverfish on Apr 9, 2022 21:43:36 GMT -5
Ooh Bunni maybe you can do a follow-up on how to edit them! You already have all the info here I think... I haven't tried it yet but I bet it's just a case of replacing the numbers with whatever you want. You'd have to do a binary -> hex conversion instead is all. And recalculate the checksum with PetzByte from Reflet.
edit: just tried it on one of my pets and it seems to have worked... my oshie now likes sweet and sand flavour lol
edit again: it might not always be that straight-forward though... my guess is there are certain limitations but we need to look into it more!
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Post by 🌠 Aubrey on Apr 9, 2022 23:26:08 GMT -5
Bunni Thank you for super detailed and easy to follow tutorial! It is so interesting to me that these traits are coded in binary.. I'm not surprised though, since ya know, Petz is a program. xD Thanks to this and Thor's program, I can confirm that I was right in assuming Aubrey's favorite color is green. c: Also, tested the other 3 petz currently occupying my game: Aubrey (Russian Blue): green/blue - chicken/fish Buster (BW Shorthair): yellow/blue - fish/milk/soft/water Felix (Calico): yellow - fish/wet Gypsum (Dalmatian): blue - beef/cheese During the Spring gameplay challenges over at Duke's Group, I had to discover the favorite flavors for Felix and Gypsum... Looks like my guess was right about both of theirs! c:
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Post by Kalium on Apr 10, 2022 4:57:19 GMT -5
Interesting to look at the chinci/alley inbuilt preferences, I have a fish loving alley and a cheese/fuzzy loving chinchi. They have a child whose faves are... fish, cheese, and fuzzy. Don't have a lot more bred petz so I can't tell if it's a pattern.
One thing I did notice was how many of my petz like green. It seems like the only ones who like other colours originated in other people's games. Is anyone else noticing a similar pattern?
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