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Post by lobb on Mar 8, 2022 14:51:04 GMT -5
I have a conversion from (I think) Gossipin but I'd really like to know more about how that works. The petz version and the babyz version seem to be very different when opened in Tinker -- I think that maybe the original version is an addball toy?
I'd really like to understand how it works so I can try to make my own conversion to hex it and make different versions of it.
Alternatively, does anyone know what the etiquette is around editing conversions like these?
Thank you!
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Post by ๐ Aubrey on Mar 8, 2022 19:49:20 GMT -5
I believe the original babyz teddy is an addball toy, but does not have an LNZ section. For me, it looks like the milk bottle when opened in Tinker and doesn't show any movement frames, but the bears shape might be coded in the FLM section that you can see in LNZPro. nope, see edit 4.The petz milk bottle (and I want to say the stick as well) are like this. No LNZ info that's eye friendly to edit, but still appears like it's made of balls/lines in game. Now, the fishbone toy in petz has an LNZ section just like clothes do. So this is an addball toy that can be edited much like how you would hex say a breedfile. When the babyz teddy was converted to petz, it looks like it was changed to a normal sprite-type toy, and each animation frame was taken by hand in the babyz game. You could remake the teddy as an addball toy, but basically you would be "rebuilding" it using the fishbone as a base. There -might- be someone who knows how to, or knows of a tutorial for converting the FLM section to look more like LNZ, but I honestly don't know if that's possible. :C (Sorry this is such a winded post and I hope it made some sense. xD) edit: As far as editing the already converted file from Gossipin? I'm not exactly sure who made those, as Gossipin was run by 3 different people - but if I had to guess, it was Manda. I doubt she's active still in the PC. :C edit2: I could've sworn there was a tutorial for editing the FLH/FLM sections on Carolyn's site, but I cannot find it anywhere... but that is what Tinker was made to do, read those sections for us. xD It just doesn't read the teddy bear the same way. edit3(omgimsorry): I found this in a tutorial: "The milk's .lnz is in the main resource .dll files as is the bone, stick, and tug-toy, and the fishbone is a "hidden" toy" .. SO I'm going to assume that the LNZ for the babyz teddy is much like this and is inside the .dll for babyz. edit4(iswearthisisit): The LNZ and ball info for the original teddy bear is in the "BabyzRez.dll". Which can be converted to work in petz, via the fish bone. c: (with tweaks of course)
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Post by lobb on Mar 9, 2022 18:35:17 GMT -5
Thank you so much!! I'll look into the babyrez.dll file. I noticed the milk bottle "sprite" too and the lack of an LNZ section and was so confused! Hopefully it'll work and I'll be able to make custom bears Is anyone from Gossipin even active? I don't know who converted that file either but since they presumably made the sprites manually, I definitely don't want to step on any toes and edit it without permission
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Post by ๐ Aubrey on Mar 9, 2022 20:07:56 GMT -5
I haven't seen them around in a while... tagging Mkay. and Manda in the off chance one pops in and could shed some light on this. c: I see you asked in the hacking discord for the babyz ball numbers. If it will help, I found a tutortial section here for different babyz things. There might be something useful in there? I'm curious though, what would happen if you just copied all of the teddy bear lnz and pasted it as-is into the fish bone?
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Post by lobb on Mar 10, 2022 0:10:57 GMT -5
I'm curious though, what would happen if you just copied all of the teddy bear lnz and pasted it as-is into the fish bone? It made a weird... thing. It didn't look like a teddy bear at all, just a bunch of random add balls together.
Thank you for that link!
I ended up finding this Carolyn's Creations doll -- it's a version of the babyz doll for petz and it's editable! I ended up just tweaking it to look like a teddy bear and will probably put it up for download eventually, though it doesn't look exactly like the one in babyz. Your link might help me continue tweaking it
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Post by ๐ Aubrey on Mar 10, 2022 17:03:57 GMT -5
I'm curious though, what would happen if you just copied all of the teddy bear lnz and pasted it as-is into the fish bone? It made a weird... thing. It didn't look like a teddy bear at all, just a bunch of random add balls together.
Haha! Nice! I'm glad the link helped! c: I didn't realize there was a babyz doll on Carolyn's site... (Oh, it's on the page with the people-things. xD I had forgotten about those) I'm also glad you're doing this! Can't wait to see all the teddy bears you make! ^^ Are you thinking of having them downloadable? or custom made only?
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Post by lobb on Mar 10, 2022 17:28:31 GMT -5
It made a weird... thing. It didn't look like a teddy bear at all, just a bunch of random add balls together.
Haha! Nice! I'm glad the link helped! c: I didn't realize there was a babyz doll on Carolyn's site... (Oh, it's on the page with the people-things. xD I had forgotten about those) I'm also glad you're doing this! Can't wait to see all the teddy bears you make! ^^ Are you thinking of having them downloadable? or custom made only? Thank you!! The bear I ended up making looks a bit different from the babyz one and I had to tweak most things by hand. I actually made it as a gift for one person but I might use it as a base to make different ones. I'm not sure yet whether I'll put them for download or just give them to specific people, trade them, etc.. Maybe a mix of both, kind of like how my flower crown is downloadable on my site but I've made a couple of event-exclusive variants. I'm still experimenting a bit with what I can do with the bears, since I only finished it yesterday Even if I end up not making many, I can still make one for you.
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