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Post by Ratqueen on Jul 13, 2021 8:31:54 GMT -5
So I got into the Poodle-posing craze! Yay! However, I have no idea whatsoever why my first one, Halfprice, is placing low -- I thought it was a good pose, but apparently not. I tried to compare with others in the same show, and I still don't find any glaring reason. Is it the angle he's laying at? I took a lot of shots to see if his head would get more straight, but nopes... Could you please tell me what's bad about it, so I can improve it? (I don't have a profile pose for this one yet -- he's only been giving me face shots so far). RKC’s Worth Double Halfprice And then I found a nest of poodley things that wanted to pose, so I obliged. RKC’s Nice and Tight Hairclips RKC's Fresh Out of the Salon Hairdo RKC's Robotic Poser Goldorak
Thank you!
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Post by zan on Jul 13, 2021 16:36:07 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself but for forward-facing poodle poses I like the nose to be as central as possible between the eyes (so your dogs Hairclips and Hairdo look better in this pose to me) and for the noseshines to be level or close to it. A heart shaped nose is ideal though may not be possible for every breed/dog. For a tiebreaker if I can't decide on placements I might look at the shape of the mouth and how that adds to the overall expression (I tend to like a neat little upside down 'v' shape like on Hairclips).
For the profile poses I like a straight or slight incline to the shape of the muzzle, one noseshine visible and an overall neat outline to the face, with the eyes looking out and slightly upwards over the nose.
Out of all the poses you shared here I like the front-facing one of Hairclips the most.
There's some discussion of poodle poses here which you may already have seen, but I do think it's useful - the diagram of how alignment affects how central the face is in pose should be really helpful!
Anyway, I'm glad you're getting into showing poodle personality dogz and hope you have a lot of fun with it!
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Post by Ratqueen on Jul 13, 2021 23:33:26 GMT -5
Thank you so much, Zan! That helps a lot!
I reposed 2 of them (and managed to get a profile pose for the first one too -- this one almost never goes to profile pose!) I hope they're a bit better.
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Post by Thor on Jul 14, 2021 3:40:29 GMT -5
Yeah you did a really good improvement there so I think you are getting the hang of it! :D I agree with zan in that the dog should be centered face and the profile should be angled in a way that the dog looks like they are facing --> as best as they could be.
I think with poodle poses you have to really un-align the dog before they do the pose. (I wanted to draw lines but I'm using a new Mac laptop and I have 0 idea how to use a basic MS Paint program to just draw lines-- but that is a topic I need to start in another thread)
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Post by zan on Jul 14, 2021 7:44:53 GMT -5
That's definitely an improvement! For the profile pose, I feel like it's much harder to get a decent one in non-poodle-headed dogz; with a poodle head the eye furthest away from the camera is hidden in profile, but for other breeds quite often both eyes show and it looks a bit weird. I certainly don't think it's a case of one alignment fits all; it's worth experimenting with turning dogz without a poodle head a little further away from the camera. Tbh I'm still playing around and figuring out what looks best!
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Post by commander on Jul 15, 2021 19:06:29 GMT -5
Seconding everything Zan and Thor said! In all honesty, when I judged Halfprice in my last poodle show, I thought he had a pretty good pose, but poodle shows are the same way all the other shows have been lately--all the poses are just SO GOOD, that the ones with the "pretty good" show place low because there are just so many "completely/nearly perfect" poses lol. The retake looks awesome, though! I'd bet that he'll place higher in shows now--depending on the other competition, of course. All of your other poodles look great too! I look forward to seeing them in shows!
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