I've been researching/testing/breeding for, like, 3 nights in a row. xD And I may have found the right combination for the [Fur Color Areas] section.
This sandy pup is 4th gen. I used Reflet's GenePoolz to pick the right pup from each generation of breeding.. Based on the colors they carry. And I took Salem's advice, with every change in the breedfile, even tiny ones, I adopted another breeding pair from the AC for fresh genes. -- you want more Scooby's for your adoption thread? xD
Also, it does make a lot of sense that there will always be a ball that mutates with the spots. (I keep thinking about the Alley Cat's wrist, and the Dali's ears...) To save Scooby's exact appearance, though, I un-omitted an unused tail ball ("tail6", ball 62) but made it super tiny, -25. Little trick I picked up from Carolyn's baby duck-fluff.
You can't even tell there's an extra tail ball floating around. xD
-edit: One more thing, I changed the color of the spots from 39 to 35. Since 35 is the coat color petz naturally can carry, I thought maybe that could affect things?
Last Edit: Mar 15, 2021 8:06:18 GMT -5 by 🌼 Aubrey
Post by CatCreature on Mar 15, 2021 14:41:49 GMT -5
Ooh, really?! Oh my goodness, that's amazing! 🌼 Aubrey how can I ever thank you enough?? That was a lot of work you put in for a file you didn't even make! Thank you so much! You're all brilliant and I really couldn't have figured it out without everyone's help!
Now to debate if it's worth figuring out variations...maybe in a V2. I feel like I have to release the file before I hit another wall trying to figure something out xD
And yes! Feel free to dump all the extra Scoobies adopted and bred that you don't want (feel free to keep any you do, or note any you'd like made over and returned if you have a favorite personality) into an email and I'll slowly work on making over and rehoming everyone xD You know I hate resorting to deletion, especially when they could be someone's favorite Petz for all we know!
I'm happy to help! ^_^ You know how much I like to try to solve petzy mysteries. xD
If needed, here is a breakdown of what I changed, if you'd like to do the same in the file you've got. (I'll still send you this version through Discord, since email likes to block .dog files)
1 - Changed color of spots from 39 to 35. 2 - Un-omitted tail6 (ball 62); Removed the [Ball Size Override] for this ball in the puppy.lnz 3 - Made sure everything was in group 1, except for the spots and newly added tail6. These are group 2 (you had already done this!) c: 4 - In [Fur Markings], added in: "2 62" on a separate line underneath what you had for the paintballs; this made tail6 inherit with the spots 5 - Now this part was tricky, as it involved adopting and breeding different dogs and checking their genes with GenePoolz... But I noticed slight changes with how their colors were shown in GenePoolz compared to the numbers that were listed in the [Fur Color Areas], but this was the final number combo that resulted in the pup above:
[Fur Color Areas]
;(1-4, 5 - jowls)
;FurColorTrait ballWithBaseColor colorAreas
1 48 1
3 62 2
On Reflet's webiste, they have a breeding guide that breaks down how to read their GenePoolz info. In it, they mention this:
Pets carry five coat colors, one eye color, and one eyelid color per genetic set. The order of the coat colors dictates the order in which those colors will present themselves. For example, color 1 is the base coat color (cream on our chihuahua above), while color 2 is the color of the dog's halfie mark/poodle socks/etc. These correspond to the "FurColorTrait" values from the [Fur Color Areas] section in the breed's LNZ.
So, the way I read it, the first number in [Fur Color Areas] IS the first color in GenePoolz, and with every new gen of puppy I bred, the 3rd color spot in GenePoolz would be the one mutating the most. Which is why I felt safe choosing it for that section, and it seems to have worked. xD
Last Edit: Mar 16, 2021 1:32:32 GMT -5 by 🌼 Aubrey
Post by CatCreature on Mar 16, 2021 2:51:43 GMT -5
I'm going to save what you say you changed, for future reference when trying to make mutating paintballs (...that may be never. x'DDD I'm so burnt out after this!) but yes, I'd definitely prefer to get the one from you, in case I royally screw something else up! I'll PM you my Discord.
I've never been able to understand how GenePoolz works...and I wouldn't have thought to use it in a situation like this! I'm still a little confused, but I did just wake up from dozing off, and I hope that's all it is. x'DD I'm tired of confusion!
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