helloooo fellow pc members! have you ever taken the creepily accurate the personality test on 16personalities.com? it gives you your myers-briggs personality type (4 letters!) i thought i'd ask to see if anyone else is interested in this kinda thing~ i love this stuff!!
I also am an INFJ. I have heard it discussed that INFJs tend to be disproportionally represented on message boards because we love communicating this way, lol!
Bunni if you love personality types you should check out enneagram! I done so much reading/watching the last few years and it's my fave. It is based on your inner motivations and not your outer behaviors/tendencies. So much of my personal growth in 2020 was realizing my "blindspots" so to speak, through the enneagram.
I didn't take my result from this particular test but a similar one that was recommended on a Coursera course I was on, and I got ISTJ and fully agree with that typing, so I believe that is more accurate than the result I'd gotten from 16personalities in the past!
Oooooo boy, a bit of a ramble incoming. But don't worry it's not directed at anyone I'm just happy to see interest in typology. I've been reading about and studying MBTI and personality theory for a few years now, and if I've learned anything it's sadly that 16 personalities does a great job of misleading people.
16 personalities pretends to be an MBTI test, while in reality it's a simplified big 5 test. That's why it's so 'accurate', it gives you a long description based on your big 5 personality traits.
On 16p I -> E represents your amount of extraversion S -> N represents your openness to experience T -> F represents your agreeableness P -> J represents your conscientiousness A -> T represents your neuroticism
My 16p type is INFJ-T. Introverted, open, agreeable, conscientious and neurotic That's all very interesting and big 5 is a cool theory, but the letters are being misused for a different theory.
MBTI isn't about personality, it's about how you think. It defines 8 'cognitive functions' that describe the strengths and weaknesses in the way we reason and think. The letters are a code for thought processes, and don't really mean much individually. An MBTI introvert isn't necessarily a social introvert and vise versa. It's a bit too in depth to explain and it takes a lot of studying and discussion to find your type. For me it took about 2 years of mistypes and opinions of several people (who have studied more year than me) before I finally found my type. Sadly not the rare INFJ but the rather common ISFJ, oh well. (I'm joking, all types are equally valuable, and nobody should want to pretend to be something they're not) One letter doesn't seem like much of a difference, but it is.
The reason why there seem to be a lot of INFJs online is because there are indeed a lot of introverts online, and a lot of them are open to experience, agreeable and conscientious.
If you're interested in learning more about cognitive functions, feel free to take this test: sakinorva.net/functions to give a rough indication where your preference for them might be. I'll be happy to talk you through the rest
Sasha Interesting... although I have absolutely no idea what any of those numbers I got mean xD I've ended up with:
(grant) function type ENFP myers function type INFJ myers-briggs type INTJ
and am still none the wiser xD But it's interesting to know that the pool is much deeper than 16.
I’d be extremely happy to explain it to you if you could screenshot all your results? All the numbers and tables and everything? You could pm it to me if you wanted. The test is still not completely accurate. Sadly personality theory is a bit too complex to figure out through a test alone but this one is a good starting point for discussion and explanation. ^^ I can point you towards resources as well if you’re interested.
Alright so I'm extremely happy to see so much interest! So to give everyone a bit of a taste of what the theory entails I'm going to give a brief summary of what the 'cognitive functions' are, and then explain my own MBTI type, the ISFJ, through them!
So for starters. What are cognitive functions? The idea behind them is that there are different ways that humans can process information and these functions offer a description for this. Now this is all kinda vague so I'm going to dive into the practical applications of this. Or maybe I'm just too much of an ISFJ to dive into vague ideas and concepts you'll understand that joke after reading this.
So the functions are sensing, intuition, feeling and thinking. Every one of us uses all of these, but the order of preference is difference. Each of these come in an extraverted form (pointed outwards) and an introverted form (drawn inwards). Sensing and intuition are known as perceiving functions, and feeling and thinking are known as judging functions.
First we're going to start with the perceiving functions. The perceiving functions are extraverted sensing, introverted sensing, extraverted intuition and introverted intuition. From now on I'll refer to these as Se, Si, Ne and Ni
Se: getting information from your surroundings. Everything you hear, see, feel, smell and taste. Everything around you in the present moment. This doesn't mean it's dry sensory information! Think of how a veterinarian gathers information by carefully examining your pet, that is also a form of Se! Si: getting information from 'you' (see a pattern emerging for what introverted and extraverted means?). Your personal past experience, facts you've remembered and gathered. Using and valuing collected information Ne: Seeing connections between bits of information, generating lots of connections and ideas Ni: Seeing 'the connection' between bits of information, seeing 'the idea'
The intuitive functions make more sense if we link them to sensing functions, you see each function is linked to another and forms an axis
Si-Ne: Ne connects the dots and generates options and ideas, Si checks these based on what it already knows and fills in details and facts Se-Ni: Se provides a large amount of information, Ni tries to find the common idea
Most people value one of these axises more than the other and to most people one of the two processes that makes up the axis comes easiest.
Now for Judging Judging stands for decision making and what you do with the information Similarly to before we have introverted feeling, extraverted feeling, extraverted thinking, introverted thinking or Fi, Fe, Ti and Te
Fi makes decisions based on a personal set of values, it prefers to be authentic to oneself. It knows what it wants and believes in. Note: Fi is not selfish, Fi can relate to others by knowing how it would make them feel. Fe makes decisions based on the values and the needs of the group. Fe pays attention to the effect it will have to the others around it and doesn't focus much on what it belives Ti makes decisions based on what makes sense to it. It organises information in a logical way so it understands it for itself Te makes decisions based on the results it will have. What makes sense to do for a certain outcome.
Again, these are linked together in axises: Fi-Te: Fi knows what it believes in and how to stay authentic to ones self, and Te knows how this applies practically and makes sense in the world Fe-Ti: Ti knows what makes sense to it and Fe knows how this applies to the values and people it's surrounded by
Now that I've written this essay, I'll show how it comes together to explain a type. So you have four functions that you value (one perceiving axis and one judging axis) and two functions that come most naturally (one perceiving, one judging)
Now for my type, ISFJ
S F indicates that the two functions that come most naturally are a sensing function and a feeling function: S F
J indicates that the judging function is the one extraverted (P would indicated that the perceiving function is extraverted), the other is introverted Si Fe
I indicates that the preferred function is introverted
Si first, then Fe
Now we fill the rest of the 'function stack' as its called, 3rd position is the other end of the 2nd position's axis, and 4th or inferior is the other end of the 1st or dominant's axis
We now have
Si Fe Ti Ne The other functions: Se, Fi, Te, Ni I can still use, but I don't particularly value them.
Si dominant: what I value and trust most is everything I know to be true. My past experience and things I've done that always worked for me. The books I've read and knowledge I've gained. I trust stuff I know and I find new situations quite difficult because I don't know what to expect. I'm good at sticking to routines and I really love recreating past experiences that mean a lot to me. For example visiting the same place for Christmas. I find explaining things using my personal experience the most easy way as well. I mean, that's exactly what I'm doing here. I'm explaining myself to show you how MBTI works, isn't this theory brilliant?
Fe secondary: I'm very sensitive to the beliefs of those around me (sometimes finding it hard to know what I truly value myself, other than of course the people close to me). Supported by past experience (my dominant) and what makes sense to me (my tert) I usually know how to make people like me and try my best to do so.
Ti tert: not my best function but it's been trained by spending a lot of time with Ti users (and Ne users, NTP types). It's very normal to feel drawn to your opposites as they are strong in functions you value but aren't as strong in yet. I rely heavily on my Si when I use this one but I love collecting information, making sense of things and understanding it for myself.
Ne inferior: the function I admire most and I find the hardest. I love Ne, I'm dating an Ne dominant (my opposite, ENTP XD) and it amazes me how they connect things and generate ideas on the fly. What I'm good at is checking and filling *their* ideas with my facts, and I do have the ability to use this function. I just don't fully trust it until I've gathered information. I'm more one to read lots and lots and lots and connect the information I read with evidence so it makes sense. Your inferior function tends to be the one you grasp at when you've exhausted everything else. I know when I'm under a lot of stress I sometimes get to the point of being like: idea, I need an idea, think think, THINK, GET AN IDEA rather than my usual methodological approach. Needless to say, I usually don't find a very good idea... xD
This makes it seem like it's all very rigid, but everyone is different so it's not really. For example in function tests there's usually one major outlier for me: Te My parents are two Te users and they value that sort of thinking greatly. I don't, I don't like it that much either. But I'm good at it because of this. Everyone can learn to use all functions, and this is just a theory that can help you learn about yourself.
To me personally, I find that the use of MBTI is to realise your strengths. I always admired Ne users bursting with ideas even though I didn't know what they were called. Now I know that they're not better, they're just good at my weaknesses, nothing more. I've embraced my strengths in order to improve myself. Instead of looking at idea people I've made a routine in which I practice my creativity. I'm not one for sudden inspiration, but I sure as heck can write every day.
I think I've been typing for over an hour and this has gotten very long, but I hope this makes sense and gives you guys a bit of an idea!
This is actually super interesting to me! I did this test about 3 years ago and my results were INTJ-T. Can't remember exactly what that meant. I'll have to go look up you guys' results, an mine again! As you can see, it says I'm "rather" introverted, but trying to make an effort
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