Hello! I have never entered a show and I would like to start showing Petz. Dancer here loves to pose but I have a lot of trouble getting her aligned. Does anyone have any advice for aligning Dogz? These are the best poses I've gotten so far:
The 3rd Dali pose is my favorite out of everything but the alignment still isn't right
Post by Alexzander on Nov 28, 2019 12:00:58 GMT -5
The challenge with the "petzy" breeds is that they often don't look very good in profile/dane poses. Your best choice is to pick either the wrist or the ankle and align there; the legs are actually not very well lined up in the original files. I usually went for the wrists myself, when posing petzy back in the day.
For a dali pose, you'll want a nice curled tail, a full chest without overposing (where they spaz and grow freakishly tall heads), and a good calm expression. Your dali #3 has a goodhead and expression, although I can see too much of the dog's foreleg. I like when the nose is slightly more over the shoulder, but I don't know if P5 dogz will do that to be honest.
As for profile, well that's a pain in the tail. Once again you'll want a nice curled tail without overposing. The expression should be proud but calm, with as close to possible only one eye and one nose ball. Your second round of profile poses, #5, has a great looking head. I would attempt the body alignment like #3 and #4 of your second post, and encourage her to just puff up when you click the camera.
For pose training, I start with just clicking the camera. When they puff up in pose behaviour, I will pet pet pet before they stop so they associate camera with pose times. I'll even give treats but pettings have always worked for me in my... 21... years... of petz playing. (!#@$ I'm old!). Once they're trained to respond, then I start trying for alignments. It's all about practice and wearing out space bars! I can recommend turning off the noise or you'll begin hearing the camera shutter noise in your sleep LOLOL. The more you work with her, the better she will get
Post by Rose@Paperclip! on Jun 2, 2020 12:29:09 GMT -5
With the particular pet you showed above, I'd recommend treating its 'feet' as if they were wrists and try to align that way to start. Then, you should post some pictures of this pet posing so we can better help you with this particular pet c: because my suggestion/starting place may be completely wrong ^^;
Post by Rose@Paperclip! on Jun 4, 2020 11:28:24 GMT -5
In my opinion, I think the second looks the best from an alignment perspective - when you lined up the back 'feet' because the front 'feet' are then aligned as if they were wrists, which is how I think you should be lining up this particular pet. So I would try to take more pictures of the pet in that kind of alignment to get really good pose shots!
Others may have differing opinions than mine, though, when it comes to judging, but I think you'll be good as long as you aim to line up those front feet like wrists. ^^
Post by Rose@Paperclip! on Jun 4, 2020 14:22:54 GMT -5
The front legs should perfectly aligned if it is a cat breed. Here's an example of my kitty, Reyes:
As you can see, when a cat poses its back legs will never be aligned because that is not how a cat file poses, so you do not even have to consider back legs here. A cat's alignment is determined by its front legs alone, which should be perfectly aligned so that you cannot see the leg behind it.
The front wrists should be perfectly aligned if it is a dog breed. Sometimes, that means the back legs will be completely level (the toes are level), and sometimes not. It depends on the breed/breeds it is mixed with. But the main point for dog alignment is to align at the wrists and not necessarily to have the legs perfectly aligned/eclipsing the other. Here is an example of my dog, Cherry:
See how her wrists are aligned (the front wrist eclipses the back wrist)? You can still see a portion of her front leg, and that's fine because the wrists are aligned. Sometimes the leg will be completely lined up, but that's not what you're necessarily going for - you want the wrists to line up first + foremost. But as you notice, her back legs are pretty well aligned! That's what I was talking about for your pet - the alignment you had in the second picture was the best because the wrists were aligned - the back legs being near perfectly aligned is just a result of the pet being aligned by its wrists (for the most part this is going to be true with a lot of breeds, especially the petzy looking ones, not the hyper realistic ones). Because your pet looks like the breed filez it was bred with had no actual feet (the ballz for the feet were deleted, making the 'wrists' its feet), that is why I was suggesting you line up the bottom part to eclipse, but not necessarily the whole leg. c: I hope this helps, let me know if you need any more clarification!
edit; the pet you are working with is especially tricky because of its uniqueness!^^ That's why I'm saying not every judge would agree with me that the second picture is the best for the pet in terms of alignment (the head needs to be more toward you) - it is really hard to show mixed breed wildz/fantasy petz just because they are so unique and can be hard to pose and to judge based on the standards for showing that already exist! c:
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