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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 15:58:04 GMT -5
I once did not have the intention to show any of my Petz here but earlier today, I was bored and done some camera work with a select few, just to see which poses are the best and yes, I did read through the posing guidelines thread before I did these so if there's any issues, please bear with me. I am only new to this sort of thing. Anyways, here is what I've done, and with the names of them too: Top row: Whiskey, Lakka, Wilkins, TigerLily, Zinc, Yvonne, Westley, Maple Middle row: Deva, Ocean, Maroon, Nathan, Mattias, Schulz, Harley, Prince Bottom row: Sam, Mickey, Shazam, Juha, Vermont
A few notes there... I am aware that some of their poses are not 100% perfect such as the front leg alignment (and believe me, it wasn't easy to get it right) and even keeping their tails straight up. The wonky eyelids also because of the Calico personality may be a factor for any of them to be considered unfit to show. For Schulz, I actually used the Perfume/Love Potion trick on him but even at that, the face is a bit of concern and even just petting him and snapping at the same time didn't really work. Out of the bunch, I think Lakka, Ocean, Shazam, Vermont and even Prince have done their best here. The others would need to work harder should I ever want to show them in the future. Comments or critique, or words of praise, are always welcome
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Post by Ratqueen on May 30, 2017 23:14:58 GMT -5
Nice to see you posing kitties! Let's see if I can help. It's a little hard to tell for sure because of the smaller pictures but, in my opinion, the best are: Whiskey: perfect poofy tail position, looks like perfect front legs alignment. Maple: might be perfect, but can't see his front legs clearly enough on the thumbnail to be sure. Deva: great fluffy tail position, but it looks like the front legs are a little misaligned. Very close, though. Ocean: looks like good leg alignment, tail curve is good (but not perfect). Schulz: tail could be a little more curved towards the head (although it's close), legs look good. Harley: very good fluffy tail position (with the tip curving slightly towards the head), looks like perfect leg alignment. It kind of looks like the right eye is higher than the left though, as if his head hadn't been straight when you took the picture, which is a little odd. Sam: if his tail was just a tad farther towards the head, he'd be perfect. Vermont: Good poofy tail, and it looks like good front legs (but can't tell for sure on the thumbnail). On a lot of the others, the tail position is less than ideal, not evenly curved, or not curved enough towards the head. Also, a few have bad leg alignment, where we can clealy see the other leg. The uneven Calico eyes go with the breed, so don't matter For the other three you mentionned: Prince: I can't tell about his legs because the picture's too small, but his tail should be curved towards the head a little more. Lakka: His front legs looks slightly misaligned. Also, his tail is not curved enough towards the head. You can compare his poofy tail to Whiskey's poofy tail, which is in the optimal poofy tail position. Shazam: his front legs looks perfectly aligned for Calico legs, but his tail is not good -- there shouldn't be that little bend a the end. This cat has a Calico tail, and you can compare it to Maroon's perfect Calico tail (Maroon has the optimal Calico tail curve -- they don't curve as far as some other non-poofy tails, but they should be curved as evenly as possible).
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 2:45:18 GMT -5
You can blame ProBoards for automatically scaling down the image. If you want a better look at them, here is a direct link that I can provide for you > i.imgur.com/3JJADrf.pngAnd even though you couldn't see well from that image, thank you for your comments. From what you said, it seems that Whiskey can be given the green light for showing. And yes, I am aware that some of their front legs weren't properly aligned yet, Deva was indeed very close on getting it right. Also, I didn't know that the tails needed to be curved in some way. I thought they had to be dead straight. At least I tried though, and of having some Petz that were less-compliant on posing, in which Schulz was this And by the way, Maple and Lakka and females
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Post by Ratqueen on May 31, 2017 22:08:23 GMT -5
No, tails should never be straight. There's actually an optimal curve that can be atteigned for each type of tail (explained with some examples in the posing guide I wrote). But, generally, they should be curved over the cat's back, as evenly as possible. I looked at the full-size picture and, yes, Whiskey is ready for showing. Great pose! Maple and Vermont are good too!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 1:16:48 GMT -5
Hooray! And wait, if you say that Maple and Vermont look their best too, are they fit for showing also? I would've thought Prince, Ocean or even Schulz would qualify but I guess I should work on them more. Once again, thank you for your response EDIT: It would be better if you can tell me which ones out of the bunch are indeed fit for showing and the others that are not, and therefore need to be worked on again should they be. In case I go ahead and think Prince is good enough only for you and others say that he isn't. Just want an official approval before I can get around showing them (but to be fair, I would easily lose track of what new shows are around, as I always skim past the Show Network. I'll try and be a bit more observant).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 15:20:31 GMT -5
Sorry for bumping this thread too soon but, I have more for you to inspect. Once again, most may not be perfect yet I am trying my hardest here. Here they are: Top row: Nimbus, Bronze, Raven, Hailen, Madame Middle row: Mathilde, Xavier, Kodomo, Paprika, Sugar Bottom row: Iona, Monica, Mirror, Mocha, Onyx
Direct link if needed
And now, reattempts at the others... now I hope they can get a pass. Once again, the tail is the hardest part to accomplish and yes, I know, Mocha is probably the worst of all. I should note that when doing these, I'm only paying attention to the front legs, and of everything else straight. I suppose the tail part is easier for those with fluffy tails. Now, If I'm told that many of these won't get approved for showing then that is fine. I'm fine with just three that I can use. Better than nothing
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Post by Ratqueen on Jun 1, 2017 19:18:34 GMT -5
All the tails of that big bunch of 15 kitties are straight or bent. Like I said in my previous reply, straight tails are no good. Tails bent away from the cat's body are even worse. Five of the other six you reposted were better posed in your first post. Lakka is slightly better in the second post, but still has a tail that could be curved more (it's all a question of timing when you snap the picture while they're posing). Your best ones, and ready to show, are (from your first post): Whiskey, Maple, and Vermont
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 1:41:49 GMT -5
Okay, good to know. And yes, their tails are not perfect but you have no idea how lomg it took to make these perfect. I guess the other three were more of a fluke I suppose. Also, I'm usually good at timing when taking shots but as for the tail itself, it's as if it only swishes from away the body to dead straight. Most times I don't even see it bent towards the body. Although I should admit... making them pose seems better when the Love Potion or Spray Bottle come to play as they can actually stay in that pose for a few seconds longer, and I wasn't sure if the eyes mattered when posing. I know it can't be helped regarding Calicos but what about if they pose with sad or angry eyes, like how Schulz and Deva are displayed as? I could work on the others again but for now, I've lost the will to do it again. Maybe in the future... but at least I have these three to be most proud of
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Post by Alex@Marvel on Jun 2, 2017 14:33:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 14:37:03 GMT -5
Completely missed that part... sorry about that. Thanks for correcting me.
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Post by Ratqueen on Jun 2, 2017 22:16:47 GMT -5
I personally don't mind if a cat has worried eyes because they were posed with the Love Potion. They do look better without the worried eyes, but the Love Potion can be useful in some cases (i.e. to pose an Oshie or Siamese-personality cat, or sometimes even an Alley cat).
It's weird how Deva poses like a Russian Blue-personality cat in the first picture (with even eyelids), and like a black & white in the second pose (with angry eyelids). What personality does he have? Do you know? But either way, it wouldn't change the way I'd judge this cat in a show, as long as the front legs were perfectly aligned and the tail had the optimal curve.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 0:36:35 GMT -5
It's weird how Deva poses like a Russian Blue-personality cat in the first picture (with even eyelids), and like a black & white in the second pose (with angry eyelids). What personality does he have? Do you know? But either way, it wouldn't change the way I'd judge this cat in a show, as long as the front legs were perfectly aligned and the tail had the optimal curve. That only happened because, I used the spray bottle at him, when he could not comply with the second posing. Sorry, just had to do it ;| I even try to use it on another Catz and as they do their angry pose, I would briefly touch them so that their eyelids revert back to normal and then snap at that precise moment. The same for the Love Potion. I did this to a Siamese of mine named Kamviri which you can see below: Thoughts? And yeah, her mouth is slightly open just so you know.
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Post by Ratqueen on Jun 3, 2017 21:53:38 GMT -5
^ It's a pretty good pose, but not perfect: front legs could be slightly better aligned, and the tail could be slightly more curved towards the head. The open mouth is a concern, though. Pretty cat!
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