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Post by Reflet on Nov 29, 2015 21:28:17 GMT -5
Hello! I'm brand new to Petz showing, despite playing Petz for many years I've never once entered a show. However, it looks like a lot of fun and I love seeing everyone's beautiful dogs that they enter. I've read up on the basics of posing and what judges look for, so I've taken some pics and I'm wondering if these are any good or not. Thanks! Both of the following dogs are mixed "petzy" breeds, and are age 100 on the slider. First up is Ari. He doesn't seem to have the nicest dali pose, but here are some shots anyways: I probably won't show him in dali, doesn't look like he's really meant for it. His dane pose is much nicer: He seems to have the "flounder eye" going on in the third shot, but I'm not sure if that's an angle issue or just the way his head is. Next is Felix, whom you may have seen in another post I made... Here are some shots of his dali pose: It's very easy to get him to make this pose. His face markings seem to differ depending on the slight angle of his head. And finally, his dane pose, which is much rarer: He never seems to wanna go into a dane pose for some reason. He throws dali all the time, but dane? Hardly ever. Also, a question about aligning "petzy" breeds... They say you align them by the wrists, but what exactly is that supposed to look like (ideally)? As you can see above, I have quite a few variations in foot/wrist alignment. Should part of the background foot be visible like in F-Dali4? Should the front of the leg show more, like in F-Dali2? Or should it be more in between, like F-Dali3? One last misc. question. Do people reuse pics of their petz whenever they enter them in different shows, or do they take new pics every time? Thank you for reading!
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Post by Alex@Marvel on Nov 29, 2015 21:35:34 GMT -5
Have you tried reading the posing guide we have over at Legend Ink? legendink.proboards.com/thread/158/dogz-posing-judging-guideMy eyes are too tired to really critique right now (I think I'm coming down with something), but I can at least answer your last question. It all depends on the person showing and the kinds of shows (places or hosts) that you're entering. Most regular pose shows on places like RKC and LI don't require that, but I believe the PKC does. (Someone can correct me on the PKC if I'm wrong)
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Post by Reflet on Nov 29, 2015 21:39:30 GMT -5
Have you tried reading the posing guide we have over at Legend Ink? legendink.proboards.com/thread/158/dogz-posing-judging-guideMy eyes are too tired to really critique right now (I think I'm coming down with something), but I can at least answer your last question. It all depends on the person showing and the kinds of shows (places or hosts) that you're entering. Most regular pose shows on places like RKC and LI don't require that, but I believe the PKC does. (Someone can correct me on the PKC if I'm wrong) Yes, I've read that, as well as a few other smaller guides/posts. Thanks for answering! (also, I hope you feel better ^^)
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Post by Emi on Dec 4, 2015 2:35:12 GMT -5
PKC never reuses pics, so you have to pose new each time. However, Dali vs Dane posing preferences of the judge matter a bit. Most judges will prefer Dane poses because it's a lot more difficult to get a good-looking Dali pose. (most breeds are designed for Dane poses) The best shot of ari is the second Dane pose. It's the only pose his legs are correctly aligned in. His head is a little high, but in the first one his head is too low and isn't arched. The head angle should be somewhere in between those poses (though much closer to the 2nd pose). The third one is a fluke and not really a pose haha he just got too into it or something. I don't like any of ari's dali poses, but there are nice parts in each one. For example, when you show a dog you want the eyelids to be neutral and flat, not downcast, startled, or angry (although angry eyes are preferred in alley cats). although the eyes are half closed, the second pose has the correct eyelid angle, though the first dali pose has the correct expression. In terms of body, the second pose is the correct Dali pose. However, the legs are misaligned and the tail curve isn't sharp enough. Now for Felix.. I like his Dali poses much better than Dane, so if you were to show him I'd go with Dali. The first Dane pose isn't good. His legs are misaligned, tail not curved enough, his head is too low. The second Dane is better, but the legs are still misaligned. The 3rd Dali pose is bad because the head is too much at an angle, the legs aren't aligned, and there is poor expression. all the Dali poses have poor expression because he looks sad or startled instead of confident! The second Dali pose has the best leg alignment. It's decently close to being perfect The last Dali pose has the best head and posture. The first Dali is holding the head too high. I hope that helps with critiquing! You did a nice job! It's super hard to get poses perfect :3
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Post by Reflet on Dec 4, 2015 13:04:18 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the feedback! I'll work at it some more!
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Post by Emi on Dec 4, 2015 17:20:16 GMT -5
You're most certainly welcome don't sweat it too much though. The original petz bodies are MUCH harder to get into a good pose than the show specific breed files. It just takes practice and a lot of time. I'll usually take up to a full day getting the poses right for even just a handle of petz. If you haven't already, train them to pose each time you click the camera, it'll make the process go faster. Then just pick them up and try to drop them at a good angle, click the camera and instead of moving around they should stop and pose.
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Post by Reflet on Dec 4, 2015 20:12:34 GMT -5
Do you have any tips about aligning the feet? I'm not 100% certain on what to look for in terms of correctly aligned "petzy" feet. Thanks again
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Post by Emi on Dec 5, 2015 0:32:21 GMT -5
The biggest difference between aligning petzy feet and show breedfile feet is that you can never fully mask the second paw on that petzy pet! What you do want to focus on is completely aligning the legs and getting as little of a nub as possible. By nub, I mean the part of the second foot that sticks out just a bit. It's easier to do this on the forelegs rather than the back legs, but if you get a real good pose make sure you save it!
I don't show petzy petz for the reasons of the incredible hard to do good posing. I think it's a bit easier for P-reg, but if you're a-reg and competing against absolutely flawless breedfiles, it does require a step up from the usual to even get noticed! P-reg has a lot of petzy petz in it, so just be sure to get a good pose! ;D
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