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Post by Thor on Feb 18, 2019 15:54:53 GMT -5
So commander presented an idea on PUGs about Poodle Posing Shows. So I read the suggested guide found here: www.oasis.fantazzled.com/posing.htmlThere's a basic idea but, its still very simple. I wonder how we'd be able to judge? Do other people have sample "good poses"? Anything to look out for? Will "poodle showing" become a thing now?? <3 Here's Romeo doing a pose: (I have no idea how to tell if Romeo is aligned; he looks pretty much like the sample photo)
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 18, 2019 16:52:18 GMT -5
I hunted down some old shows hosted throughout the web on different forums/sites seeing if there were any similarities in the non-broken images to give an idea what poodle shows could have meant back in the day. concluded that people back then seemed to have had different tastes/ideas of what a poodle show was. was about a 60/40 favor to poodles posing to how you posted, yet still some winning facing the camera.
tried to 'wayback' some old guides that I found linked in various places but none of them were ever captured before changing to very different sites.
I decided that since oasis' guide seems to be the only guide that survive the great petz extinction, it's going to be the way I look at it to start with, and maybe tweak it to taste as/if they evolve.
It does seem really simplified for how complicated danes/dali shows are, but since they've been dead for so long i think they deserve a more relaxed requirement haha
I'm curious to see different tries from other people too. Since on the site example the ... fluff? is over part of the eye, yet yours it appears behind the eye. I saw both in old shows but didn't noticed if either tended to place above the other, or if a certain trait decides which happens on the dog. Can it appear before the eye on Romeo? The feet on the example seem to be almost a straight line but Romeo doesn't have the same fluff poodle feet so maybe even if his isn't a straight line, it might be the best he could do?
Soory it's not really advice and more rambling/my thinking of poodle shows haha it was the community that came up with how shows work so we'll have to rebuild poodles xP curious if pkc does them? I know they're all about showing but maybe it's just the dane/dali
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Post by commander on Feb 18, 2019 21:03:22 GMT -5
Poodle shows were never really all that popular, which is kind of a shame as I find getting poodles to poodle pose far easier than getting any other breed to go into the dali OR dane pose. I did enter a few waaaay back in the day, though, so there was a standard. I also remember that both the head facing forward and head facing sideways were accepted, although I saw the sideways pose more often, and I think I prefer that way anyway.
Thor, that's a pretty good poodle pose, although I think he's facing a bit too much towards the camera. I can see a little bit of his far eye, and in an ideal poodle pose, you should only see the right eye.
This is my poodle Oedipus, who's actually competed in poodle pose shows and already has 24 points. Comparing the two, you can see that the snout draws a line that is relatively longer when the alignment is ideal.
I think Romeo's got a better tail position, though. It should be sloping down like his, and not just kind of sticking straight out like Oedipus's is.
And this is Luden, my absolutely ridiculous dane/sheepdog/poodle mix who is basically the reason why I love poodles so much, demonstrating how non-poodles with a poodle personality do the pose. Similar concept--only one eye visible, the snout makes a straight line, and the tail slopes nicely away from the body.
If we're going to accept forward facing poodle poses as well, I assume you'd use the same ways to determine if a dog in the dali pose is centered, by looking at the shape of their nose and how even their eyes are. I've never actually tried a forward facing poodle pose before, but I could try it out with my some of my poodles and see if I can figure out the optimum forward facing poodle pose, if it's something people would be interested in.
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Post by Thor on Feb 20, 2019 16:47:57 GMT -5
I still kind of see the eye in this photo, but its hard to tell how to align the poodle because he was facing more away from the camera when I dropped him and then started taking photos. I'm going to keep trying x3 we could have a poodle posing contest here ;3 but we would need standards and examples. Maybe mine can be used as "not as good" examples or how you would place the 4 photos above kind of thing.
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Post by commander on Feb 20, 2019 21:18:49 GMT -5
^That is a gorgeous poodle mixie. I've got a poodle pose guide on my to-do list. Hopefully by this weekend I can get it typed out with example pics!
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