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Post by Thor on Jul 17, 2018 21:35:45 GMT -5
Hmm. I never noticed that DLL before. I might try something with it later... I'll see if I can get some results ^^
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 18, 2018 6:28:06 GMT -5
Hmm. I never noticed that DLL before. I might try something with it later... I'll see if I can get some results ^^ Really? That'd be super cool! Thank you! I'm very curious to know how you'd open it and read it. I wonder If the code for when and to perform certain animations is stored in the Rez file too, hmmm ^_^ I have a few dogz in Petz 2 who love dancing together, If I could get dancing dogz in Petz 4 that'd be amazing! Then all my crew could dance
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Post by smonikkims on Jul 18, 2018 7:31:53 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but a hex editor might get you closer than LNZ. I have no idea what this is but I am wondering if the BDT section is animations... or something else. I dunno. I just have a hex editor, I don't know what any of it means. xD
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 18, 2018 8:32:46 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but a hex editor might get you closer than LNZ. I have no idea what this is but I am wondering if the BDT section is animations... or something else. I dunno. I just have a hex editor, I don't know what any of it means. xD Maybe it has something to do with it! I think BDT is their behaviors. Now we just have to find out which of them were only in Petz 2, maybe if we compare the file with Petz 2's Dogz Rez file? I'm guessing maybe the animation is still there but the behavior to execute it is only present in Petz 2
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Post by smonikkims on Jul 18, 2018 9:02:21 GMT -5
I don't actually have P2 so I can't do that but if you have the dll and want me to take a look, you can email it to me!
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 18, 2018 9:23:04 GMT -5
I don't actually have P2 so I can't do that but if you have the dll and want me to take a look, you can email it to me on smonikkims@gmail.com! Sure! I have Petz 2, I'll send you the Rez file as soon as I get on my PC. I'm glad you're willing to look at it, you might know more about the code then me .
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Post by smonikkims on Jul 18, 2018 9:26:14 GMT -5
Hah I know nothing! But I'll look for differences. I wouldn't know what to do with them, but I'll see.
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 18, 2018 11:44:01 GMT -5
Hah I know nothing! But I'll look for differences. I wouldn't know what to do with them, but I'll see. Went ahead and sent you the file. Also I see what you're talking about, I didn't know you could open the file in LNZ! seems interesting, there's even different categories for "DOG11" and "DOG12" Ect, so looks like each one is a behavior, not sure how we can find out which ones are the ones for dancing and such but they should be somewhere in the Petz II Rez Good-luck. Maybe Petz Workshop labels animations? Then we could find out which one it is!
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Post by Barguestspirit on Jul 19, 2018 11:31:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still really salty about those behaviors being removed. I used to love watching my dogz in P2 dance and hump (not at the same time, LOL), it was one of my favorite things to do (well, there was no breeding back then ya know). I know dogz still dance in P3, but for whatever reason, they removed it in P4 and 5. I'm pretty sure it's not the same as trotters and tricksters, but rather how the game has pets react to the musicbox toy in general. I don't have P3, but in P2, all pets will dance to the music. It's sort of like how all pets react to being brushed, or how all dogs will at least try to catch a frisbee if you throw it. The game has all those animations in the code and directs those behaviors to happen in reaction to this or that. So this isn't quite the same thing as changing a pet's "gene" I feel, but rather something in the main code.
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 19, 2018 11:40:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still really salty about those behaviors being removed. I used to love watching my dogz in P2 dance and hump (not at the same time, LOL), it was one of my favorite things to do (well, there was no breeding back then ya know). I know dogz still dance in P3, but for whatever reason, they removed it in P4 and 5. I'm pretty sure it's not the same as trotters and tricksters, but rather how the game has pets react to the musicbox toy in general. I don't have P3, but in P2, all pets will dance to the music. It's sort of like how all pets react to being brushed, or how all dogs will at least try to catch a frisbee if you throw it. The game has all those animations in the code and directs those behaviors to happen in reaction to this or that. So this isn't quite the same thing as changing a pet's "gene" I feel, but rather something in the main code. I'm pretty salty about them removing those behaviors as well. I think you're right about petz reacting to things, I wonder if the animations and behaviors are in different files or both in the Rez? Do you know anything about the way it works? Or how to modify it?
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Post by smonikkims on Jul 19, 2018 18:07:22 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't think I can make sense of it through the Rez. It actually seems that D3+ has /more/ lines of code in that section than II? Haha I wasn't expecting to find anything anyway!
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 19, 2018 20:47:23 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't think I can make sense of it through the Rez. It actually seems that D3+ has /more/ lines of code in that section than II? Haha I wasn't expecting to find anything anyway! D'awww, Well people used to hex Pet files and Breedfilez all the time using Hex editiors before Petz Workshop, I know that's way different then behaviors but there must be some way to figure out what all that code means in the Rez, I'm sort of scared to change any of it myself because I have no idea what it'll change, but I must try something.
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Post by Thor on Jul 19, 2018 22:57:13 GMT -5
You would probably need to do more than just edit the pet files. The way PetzA from Sherlock Software changes the game is probably how you would have to modify the game. I wish he could explain how he did it x3 I know it has something to do with the petza.toy file and I believe it must inject code into the game somehow/where. I have no idea...
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Post by ✬MsWildiful✬ on Jul 20, 2018 7:49:53 GMT -5
You would probably need to do more than just edit the pet files. The way PetzA from Sherlock Software changes the game is probably how you would have to modify the game. I wish he could explain how he did it x3 I know it has something to do with the petza.toy file and I believe it must inject code into the game somehow/where. I have no idea... Yeah I know it would require more than editing pet files. I'll have to find out what's the ID code for the music box and catnip, cause maybe the ID code is incerted in one of the animations cause it has to do with that item.
EDIT: So just found another unused hidden animation, open any breed in Petz Workshop and go to animation number 63, the dog will do a pointing hunting pose, and I've never before seen a dog point like that before. So maybe it was in Petz 2? Not sure, but it's a really neat animation, I can't imagine what they'd point at, toyz? Other petz? hmmm I said before about how I was scared to change any files myself, but who am I kidding? I love experimenting and attempting to modify games, so I tried isolating the dancing animation file and putting it into Dogz 4's Rez to no avail. Once the game crashed because it didn't know how to react with that behavior, another time I Tried replacing Petz 4's Catnip and flea-spray file with Petz 2's, surprisingly the flea-spray was still in-game but the Catnip plant was not. But I will keep trying stuff =P
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