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Post by ArtsyAlraune on Feb 26, 2018 0:49:14 GMT -5
Oof, I forgot this forum was a thing! Great! I had a question about tails. So, Cali tails don't curl as much, right? I've been trying to breed little bitty tabbies using the AC Kittlings file, and as it turns out, they have Cali personalities. So that brings me to Babycakes: This was updated from my previous attempt at a pose. I hexed the curl of her tail a little bit, I hope that's acceptable, but beyond that does anyone else have any advice? I can understand not judging her tail by Cali standards since she otherwise doesn't look Cali at all (which is the point, but now I have that to contend with in the genetics)
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Post by Ratqueen on Feb 26, 2018 2:33:31 GMT -5
That's correct, Cali tails have a different bend, less curly than other regular tails. When you entered Babycake in my show, I placed her last because her tail was straight and leaning to the left. Her front legs alignment was perfect though. Had her tail looked like this, she would have placed higher. She has a great pose (ever so slightly better in the one you entered in my show, except for the tail of course). She's an itty bitty cutie!
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Post by Aeldrius on Feb 26, 2018 5:58:20 GMT -5
In that pose you can see the ball at the top of the tail so it's aligned.
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Post by Ratqueen on Feb 26, 2018 12:35:23 GMT -5
In that pose you can see the ball at the top of the tail so it's aligned. Not sure what you mean by that? Maybe something I'm unaware of but, although the tail curve can be affected by the alignment, it's mostly a question of perfect timing. Each type of tail has an optimal achievable position/curve/bend.
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Post by Aeldrius on Feb 26, 2018 20:10:26 GMT -5
In that pose you can see the ball at the top of the tail so it's aligned. Not sure what you mean by that? Maybe something I'm unaware of but, although the tail curve can be affected by the alignment, it's mostly a question of perfect timing. Each type of tail has an optimal achievable position/curve/bend. I did a little show pose studying when I did my first show, apparently when a tail is on it's optimal curve you will be able to see the outline of the top ball, the really thin ones don't do it though. And by aligned I meant position.
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Post by ArtsyAlraune on Feb 26, 2018 22:25:00 GMT -5
I wonder, is the Cali tail curve due to the Cali personality or just due to the relative position of the balls? I did a SCP swap on Babycakes to give her the Tabby personality and her tail curve didn't seem to improve. So I brought the Babycakes!Tabby into Pet Workshop and watched the animation very closely (animation 307, right?) to see how far towards the head that the tail would go. I eventually settled for just literally adjusting the balls of her tail to achieve a better curve. I wonder if it's due to her tiny size that her tail doesn't seem to curve all the way back? Maybe having the balls compressed so tightly messes with the animation? Or would the smaller size of the individual balls compensate for that? I'm still learning the relationship between the size/position of balls and the animations.
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Post by Ratqueen on Feb 26, 2018 23:21:03 GMT -5
I don't know which animation number it is as I use Petz 5, so I have to take the picture at the exact right time (can almost do it with my eyes closed by now, as I've done it for so many years).
About the Cali tail, I think it's its shape. I only show mixies and I always find Cali and Siamese tails to be the hardest, regardless of the personality. But it is possible to get an optimal curve even for these if the timing (and alignment) is right.
I would say it's very possible the smaller size has an effect of the tail curve, though (kittens' tails never seem to curve as much as the adults for instance).
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Post by Arie on Feb 27, 2018 15:21:58 GMT -5
I wonder, is the Cali tail curve due to the Cali personality or just due to the relative position of the balls? The personality only affects the eyelids and the willingness to pose, the posing animation itself is otherwise identical for all breeds! Cali tails don't curve as nicely because of the relative position of the balls. Same story with alley cat tails. It's entirely possible that this hexed breed has trouble achieving the ~ideal curve due to any shape/size changes made to the tail. In any case, I think the tail curve looks nice in the picture above.
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