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Post by paige@rattlesnake on Jul 11, 2017 21:41:57 GMT -5
So I've been showing catz for a few months and I love it! I want to get into dog showing but honestly a lot of the dogz stuff is kind of confusing to me. There's like different lingo, and not just in showing, so I extra feel like I don't know what I'm doing. Anyway I'm trying to learn and have been using the guide posted here as well as some stuff at PKC but I still have questions and would love feedback. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Are any of these an overpose? Which is the worst? Which is the best? Why? What is the most important thing? For example, in #1, the eyes are perfectly aligned (they rest on the same pixel), and for the back legs, the back foot is only one pixel behind the front foot. However, the nose is not in its heart shape. In #8, the legs are the same, and the nose is in its heart shape--but the eyes are one pixel off and the tail is not as well curled. What are the largest faults for you and what's more important--back leg alignment, eye level, tail curl, heart nose, or something else?
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Post by Ratqueen on Jul 12, 2017 1:42:28 GMT -5
I personally like #7 best. Head is straight, heart-shaped nose, front wrists are aligned, tail looks okay (but not best?), the overall dog position is pleasing... I'm curious to know what the dogz specialists will say though, since that's not my forte. Love your dog, by the way! Those ears! My favorites! (Sorry so short... I'm on my tablet, plus I should be asleep!)
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Post by paige@rattlesnake on Jul 12, 2017 2:13:50 GMT -5
Thanks for your input, RQ! Good point about head being straight, I noticed that some of them the head is turned too much (#3 for example). I love the chi ears too! This is one of my favorite dogz but I thought she was overposed because because of that huge (bulldog? chihuahua?) chest, haha!
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Post by bambi vision on Jul 13, 2017 5:48:17 GMT -5
aw I'm so pleased you haven't let it intimidate you, it's good fun and you don't have to take it too seriously or anything :> plus I think 2 & 7 are great poses, you definitely have the right idea! I'm nowhere near an expert but I've posed a lot of Dalis now (I have the ingrained trauma to tell the tale) and Celia gave me good feedback on them over on WW - I respect her opinion a lot, she's really experienced in petz shows 5 & 10 are in different stages of an overpose, I think - you can see it in the set of the ears and the expression. But I don't know if that's a sure-fire tell, just something I can see. 8 could be? but equally could just be a funny breathing point the head on both 2 and 7 is great. I always use the nose shine (rather than shape) to make a judgement - you want a neat upside down uppercase L for the right-hand side shine. The eyes are level in both poses too. I think the reason the expression differs between them is the alignment. If you look at the back paws, you can almost draw a straight line down where the toes end, except the right paw is is 1px forward in pose 7 and 1px back in pose 2. I hope you don't mind, I've drawn on your poses to show you what I mean (much better than my confusing written explanation) I've put one on top of the other and tweaked transparency to try and show you what I mean. I align my poses by making sure the toes of the back paws stop at the same pixel, but I think you can align using the front paws instead. Either way I find this way gives you the perfect expression if you catch the highest breathing point based on that I think 7 is great and I'd place that pose! I have one dog whose back paws mysteriously won't align perfectly anyways (you may have seen this grievance over on the PKC forums)
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Post by paige@rattlesnake on Jul 13, 2017 12:01:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation, bambi vision! That is really helpful. I hadn't even really looked at the ears at all but now that you mention it I see what you're talking about with 5 & 10. So much to keep track of! I'm going to try and hunt up your WW thread. I feel a little more confident about trying dog shows out now. Thanks again for your help!
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